Massive Rockets, Engines and Parachutes: More Ideas That SpaceX Abandoned


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In its 18 year history SpaceX has developed a lot of concepts on paper which never made it to flight, or, were never made to work. Either way the company has a rich history of projects that seemed like a good idea at the time but fell out of favour due to difficulties with engineering, a dearth of time, or a lack of a customer wanting to pay the cost.

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  1. Fluffy Floofer

    When did the “suicide burn” turn into a “hover slam manoeuvre”? …i must’ve missed a memo ;D

  2. John F

    That was fun and informative. Thanks for sharing.👍🚀🚀🚀👍

  3. Random Someone

    Love your channel ❤

  4. wildyracing1

    I always wanted more potent upper stage on Falcon 9/Heavy. In my opinion, SpaceX could utilize the Falcon rockets and Crew Dragon for near Earth exploration a lot more if the second stage was more powerful.

  5. sephamt

    So good that SpaceX use SI unit. Wow.

  6. wrightmf

    I was thinking advantage of starting on one concept that includes building hardware then later abandon it to start on another has advantage of building up infrastructure for building things (ordering parts, machining, wiring up stuff, hands-on learning). As compared to lots of paper studies and then select one concept and that will continue beyond when originators die of old age. Those started Dragon got to see it fly people. Not sure for those that started Orion will live long enough to see it carrying people. I am impressed with Dragon using the Dracos for launch abort but also be used for manuveuring. Unlike Orion takes its shape because that what was used for Apollo and makes a lousy cargo carrier because door too small. Then through various foibles is this huge protective shroud with the escape tower, a lot of mass that will be thrown away but yet need it for crew escape. I sure like to hear those that designed Dragon and how they arrived at the way it is, in addition to other ideas that looked promising but turned out not a good idea. And alternates envisioned but never got beyond paper for ? reason.

  7. gs 00

    Why is the title a star * ??

  8. sergei

    bruh what happened to the video title

  9. Carlos_A_M

    You can´t scott the manley.

  10. Drake Tamer

    Raptor Engine Christmas Tree? Yes please. Hmm, someone should make 3D printed models and we can send them to all the workers at Boca Chica.

  11. Kevin Street

    Thanks for another great video!

  12. Dhiman Luy

    Space x really didn’t like parachutes after there first boosters were destroyed , landing the capsule whit the super dracos lmao

  13. Anarchy Antz

    I think Elon should have gone full Kerbal with the Dragon’s landing legs. Regarding the booster landings, I always have to watch them as they remind me of my childhood watching B&W Flash Gordon ships landing.

  14. Skipper Vicky

    What’s the ring which gets jettisoned from the nozzle bell few seconds after the m Vac ignition

  15. Steven Rappolee

    On @nasaspaceflight there is a SpaceX slide with what looks like a PeeWee Thermal nuclear rocket engine

  16. Alex Landherr

    The first successful landing was in December 2015 on land, I take it you mean the first drone ship landing?

  17. Dumble Door

    Great vid, thanks. 👌🙏

  18. valentin Verra

    what happened to the title of this video within the last hour?

  19. Moritz von Schweinitz

    A huge question which, AFAIK, hasn’t been answered yet is if Dragon still has propulsive emergency landing capability.
    Note that there is one button for “Water de-orbit” and another one for “de-orbit now” inside the crew dragon.

  20. Pedro Aguiar

    Red dragon would have been so cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. Niklas Harms

    Whats with the title? Why is it only “*”?

  22. vanhoe0

    Previous title was “Massive Rockets, Engines & Parachutes – More Things That SpaceX Abandoned”.

  23. Nifol

    Given how Elon Musk operates, I’m very surprised we haven’t seen a massive SSO craft with an Aerospike engine being wheeled out yet.

  24. Marc Stollmeyer

    You should talk about the original Falcon Heavy concept, where they showed an animation of all 3 boosters landing back at the cape along with the 2nd stage as well.

  25. ujgilani

    Hi Scott thanks for your informative videos. Just wondering do you have a degree in any of the rocket sciences or it’s just your passion

  26. Caleb

    Ah yes, *

  27. Andrew Tubbiolo

    I saw a “*” in “Breakfast of Champions”. Perhaps it was Kilgore Trout.

  28. OVIMALTINE

    ** intensifies*

  29. ClenchedRektum

    Falcon x heavy was a missed opportunity for the Falcon XXX

  30. Asger Vestbjerg

    Great walkthrough
    Thanks for sharing :-)

  31. Ryan Payne

    Was it “Falcon X” or “Falcon 10?”

  32. Aubrey Freeman

    Is the * a starship reference…?

  33. Raven Coldheart

    Is * supposed to be similar to ‘); DROP TABLE users; ?

  34. Bobcat665

    Starship will always be BFR to me. 😁🤣

  35. Dragonfire511

    Ah yes, the * space agency….. thanks Youtube

  36. Charles Yuditsky

    Well you know Scott, in the Space industry you win some, you lose some.

  37. Forestville Oppa

    I wonder if SpaceX ever considered Dragon legs extending down from the sides of the capsule instead of through the heat shield?

  38. Neil Moss

    Is there any merit in the Draco thrusters being fired as a last desperate resort should there be a ‘problem’ with Crew Dragon’s parachutes? i.e. do they have enough delta-v in them to slow a free-falling capsule down sufficiently to create a chance of a survivable water landing?

  39. Brian Riddle

    Why is the title “*” ?

  40. Spörde Spyrdenstein

    easy to sound cool with a name like that. If I was named Kirk Kingly or Conan Cimmerian I would get lots of clicks too.

  41. Lord Zephyros

    That’s an interesting video title 😂

  42. Jimmy Edwards

    Scott, is there some reason or meaning for each of your different intro’s ??

  43. Bryan Sicard

    Just wanted to say thanks for the video, it’s wonderful to nerd out with you!

  44. Blaze LB

    i was busy minding my own business with meme videos until this video popped up with [ * ] <- that wtff???

  45. Oscar Sorensen

    Interested to know why you changed the title! Look forward to the next one as always

  46. FutureMartian97

    Who else is here when the title was “*”

  47. Kennethsideas

    What’s with the title? It was fine like two hours ago

  48. Si Walder

    Set the reaction wheels to SAS only, set wheel traction and friction to 0.4 and that thing will work an absolute treat.
    Control from docking port (reversed) and set SAS to prograde.
    Really nice looking buggy.

  49. Ian Maxwell

    SpaceX goes through project proposals like I go through SSTO and Eve lander designs in KSP.

  50. bbeen40

    A title would be helpful….
    I’ll come back and watch after you fix it.

  51. Gumby902

    Original title:
    “Massive Rockets, Engines & Parachutes – More Things That SpaceX Abandoned”

  52. Hippie McFake

    Thanks for this video (and your great content overall <3 ). Could you do an indepth video on parachutes and their complications? I think you've mentioned it here and there but it's still quite counterintuitive that the hoverslam is easier to pull off than a parachute soft landing.

  53. Minonian

    (just chatting)
    I we heard they revised the drake equation and now it’s talks about around 36 possible alien civilization.
    And i here i’m wondering what given them the idea? 😁

  54. 許進曾

    That Christmas tree with rocket engine looks great.

  55. Charles Cotter lll

    Red dragon sonds cool

  56. Joe Grey

    2:40 that engines getting dry humped

  57. 5chr4pn3ll

    So where is that Tesla now btw?
    Also btw, what is going on with that EM drive?

  58. Daniel Son

    So these rockets in theory would make good icbms 🤔

  59. 0 0

    Voice getting deeper every time! Lol 😂

  60. sofuckingannoying

    2:32 Using a propane tank for a combustion chamber! That’s frugal even for SpaceX.

  61. Mihai Lazar

    I see Scott is showing off his Regular Expressions in the video title

  62. Otrab

    Raptor upper stage would have been awesome.

  63. zapfanzapfan

    Too bad, I really wanted to see Red Dragon do a sample return.

  64. Scott Stewart

    Gotta respect the willingness to kill a project.

  65. Kyle Denny

    Imagine Falcon XX Heavy.

  66. Ortherner

    This is called “*”

  67. Iron Thunder Lyrics

    *

  68. webdaddy

    Next similar episode: Falcon Heavy crossflow

  69. Dutch Universe

    Please talk about the abandoned f9 second stage recovery project

  70. OtakuMage

    4:42
    I think you need to blur that naked Raptor.

  71. nanunanu83

    I recorded the video at 7:12 aboard the NASA WB-57. It is great to see the video being used. Thanks Scott!

  72. Lewis Massie

    Back in 2012/13 I was skiving off my IT lesson in school and ended up on the SpaceX website somehow. I’ve not seen the Merlin 2 spoken of since then so it was nice to see it hadn’t been completely forgotten

  73. Presto Productions

    After entirely too much time playing KSP I can never call it a hover slam but only a suicide burn

  74. BackYard Science 2000

    Congrats on hitting 1 million subs! It’s well deserved.

  75. Alex Landherr

    At 3:00, and it looks a lot like the F1 too.

  76. DJ Emergency

    To return to the previous menu, press star now….

  77. bzqp2

    Why on -Earth- Mars the dragon on the Red Dragon visualisations is blue??

  78. Dmytro Picky

    4:46 now thats a Christmas tree!)

  79. John Paul Lafferty

    The Crew Drago capsule is soooo cooool. I just wish it held more fuel to land safely onto a surface!!! Fly safe!!!

  80. Conal Fawcett

    How about: Instead of feet coming out the headshield, what if the heat shield moved down with shock absorbing legs between it and the crew area?

  81. Moniker_alpha

    My dad was a board member at Irvin! I remember going to the factory in Hope Mills here in NC. I still have all his research materials and patents! I remember when he needed to mock up stuff he’d go down to the ace hardware and literally pull ordinary hardware off the shelf.

  82. Blade4952

    Kind of a shame that Merlin 2 never came to be. As a big fan of over the top super powerful rocket moters, the last decade have been full of disappointments lol. First the Merlin 2 and then the F-1B that was going to be part of SLS.

  83. Noah Pettit

    Why would the landing legs have to come through the main heat shield rather than coming out from the sides?

  84. Arthur Sadowsky

    Scott, the Russian/German telescope just finished scanning the sky for the first time. If I’m not mistaken, you are an astrophysicist. It should be in your domain. Why don’t you do a complete review of the completion of the first scan? That would be interesting to hear your criticism. Thank you 🙏

  85. Arch Onix

    I see this title, I want to type rm -rf *

  86. Stormhawk 427

    One engineer’s abandoned project is another engineer’s game-changer.

  87. paradigm respawn

    Ooooohhh!!! MARS!

    Tars Tarkis & Dejah Thoris…

    That 10 legged Lion.

  88. Harker92

    I guess this is less important now that NASA looks to be allowing the reuse of the Dragon 2 for crew missions despite splashing down, but it occurred to me that the even if the SuperDracos weren’t to be used for propulsive landings, they could still be used in a similar way to the Soyuz retro rockets for a “soft landing” on land – there’s probably some good reasons not to try this! But just from a risk mitigation perspective there surely would of been some consideration for Dragon being able to survive a dry landing on just parachutes in an emergency.

  89. Aeneas911

    Scott, you should patent your pronunciation of the word “boosters”

  90. Alex Landherr

    Why “*” as a title?

  91. bazoo513

    Ha, I haven’t thought of it: they needed parachutes anyway for in-flight aborts, as SuperDracos would not have enough fuel to both extract the vehicle from the booster fireball and land it softly.

  92. Hdhnswk

    Ariane 1 attempted a similar 1st stage parachute landing, 3 times I believe

  93. Tn - Troy

    Why is this called * for me?

  94. whuzzzup

    > Landing boosters with parachutes is just too damn hard.
    > From now on we shall land a booster upright on a ship in the ocean pinpointed to a 5 m radius.

  95. Alphabet

    “Hi, this is Scott Manley and this is ABANDONED (projects)…”

  96. randomnickify

    Obviously Falcon XXX can not be legally shown on Youtube.

  97. Josh_from_Canada

    The title is just an *

  98. Jesús Atorrasagasti

    No one:
    Scott Manley: “*”

  99. Atala Keanu Monarshi

    ” * ”

    This is the first time I’ve seen his video only has one single character for the title. Weird…

  100. Scott Manley

    I have no idea why the title got changed to ‘*’ but I’m going to blame my kids……

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