We Used 1800s Math to Solve One of Jupiter’s Biggest Mysteries

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Jupiter’s storms cover the planet, but the ones at the planet’s poles have mystified astronomers for years: why haven’t they merged together yet?

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Tags: scishow, scishow space, Space, Science, hank green, astrophysics, astronomy, Jupiter, storm, Cyclone, pole, floating magnet, Juno, magnets, equilibrium, vortices, vortex

Comments:
  1. Evil Sharkey

    Who knew to look up articles that old?

  2. Mix Master Mike

    Beautiful episode!!

  3. MrOnTheCheap

    Thumbnail looks like pepperoni pizza.

  4. Daryl Yap

    Modern problems required centuries old solutions

  5. Eric Melto

    Awesome. Great experiment. We have just begun to understand magnetism and electricity.

  6. Sonja Johnson

    This may sound random but
    is there lightning in these storms? Do we know? If there is – that would mean there’s electrical charge going around in the clouds there, right? Couldn’t that also affect the storms in some manner?

  7. calamariOne

    The math is LEGIT!

  8. Existential Error

    Insane Clown Posse was up to something.

  9. That One Taco Bell Guy

    This is so cool.

  10. Aldebaran

    Love it!

  11. Topher_69 Eze

    Can we use this arcane math to understand hurricanesca bit more than we already Fully well do?

  12. chickenmonger123

    HD videos of Jupiter’s turbulent flows are just about the most awe inspiring things ever. True Fractals, because they account for probability and differing mechanical properties based on composition and temperature, while still visualizing the iteration of natural processes so impressively.

  13. Matt Majcan

    i thought the thumbnail was a pizza

  14. Konstantinos

    History’s evident potential unveiled

  15. **

    you get a thumbs up for calling it Math instead of maths

  16. Opferman Motors Dirtbikin

    I thought the thumbnail was a pepperoni pizza.

  17. Ligh7 Foo7

    Hexagonals or rather Hex angle nuls, are the most efficient shape to store matter. Are these vortices spherical or cylindrical? Is this magnetic shielding or shielding from weather?

  18. Matt Long

    you might want to ask rodger penrose if this view of reality is invalid. I think he will disagree with you.

  19. David Reeding

    I had a dream where I drove a boat on Jupiter, on an endless sea of marinara sauce

  20. sween187

    4.28 wait Jupiter two… So we do have 8 planets (excluding Pluto) ,

  21. Dhiraj Vaijwade

    Typical mathematics complex of jupiter we need to solve it accurately

  22. Shenanigans with les

    Sir you need to calm down in 10 seconds in and you are already yelling in disbelief.

  23. Przemyslaw Sliwinski

    2:24 – Do you have a link to this paper? (I am afraid I can’t find one in the sources you have listed.)

  24. Jon Strande

    They could see the storm back in the 1600s? How powerful was those scopes?

  25. James Benton Ticer

    One of your better recent videos! More like this please.

  26. David

    Excellent. Thanks for the update. I heard that the Great Red Spot is dying off, getting smaller. Is this true?

  27. Osmosis Jones

    Would Jupiter like planet stabilize the orbit of an earth sized or smaller planet

  28. Issolom Issolom

    Hanks- dark mode 😂

  29. CR Smith

    You need to do a video on why Hank has better hair than his brother

  30. L Dewey MD

    Great video! For some reason, it feels intuitively that these same processes could be producing the vortex storms that form a giant hexagon right over Saturn’s north pole.

  31. Sai Eternium

    LEGIT~!

  32. Uni Corn

    Thank for the free education and keeping me (slightly) sane for this weird year. Have a great new year to all at SciShow

  33. Mark Susskind

    Do I chew an ek-spearmint experiment?

  34. TheMullerClan

    As I read the title “1800 maths” were used to solve this problem :)

  35. seasaltedcaramel

    I didn’t know Jupiter was so cool! SciShow should do a series with (simplified versions of) everything we know about each planet and moon other than earth.

  36. Tauri

    YOU LEARN ABOUT MAGNETS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL?!?!?!
    WHAT UBER GENIUS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DID _YOU_ GO TO?!

  37. Ricardo Thomas Manuel Her

    The storms on Jupiter truly are amazing when examined closely. Awesome 1800s Math to figure out what’s going on with the storms

  38. Ligh7 Foo7

    Is Saturn’s hexagonal storm that shape because it is so large?

  39. -

    I thought the thumbnail was pizza. Now I’m sad. 🙁

  40. Christopher Harris

    Those infrared pic of the cyclones look like art from berserk. The god hand is real. They are coming for us.

  41. Oriole nunya

    I think I need to binge again… I didnt know most of any of this and as a space nerd I think I’ve been lacking a bit 😅

  42. theshuman100

    Gonna give 5 years before they infer jupiters atmosphere condition based on that irrelevant variable

  43. Jason Scott Morris

    The darker outfit looks good on Hank

  44. Marco Roepers

    Can you also say that the theorie of ether has a long time ago been falsisfied but that the math of it lives on?

  45. -EM-

    The math was legit!

  46. Paul Smith

    Looks like it’s still forming

  47. Plate_Fox

    Lord kelvin sounds like a supervillain name for somebody who controls temperatures

  48. Science!

    I’m still not convinced of Jupiter’s good intentions….

  49. Daniel Zellmer

    I recognize this this is the Swindon magic roundabout!

  50. illesizs

    Using maths from the 1800s is not that special. I mean, they must have used addition too, which is… how old is that actually? So yeah…

  51. Jason Reed

    I can here the grad student cackling that this actually worked with relatively little effort on their part. Since the equations had been solved for 200 years already.

  52. tabaks

    What is the meaning of the word “expeariment”?

  53. Leo Lionhart

    Despite failing my History, I never cease to use it for making a better decision every time.

  54. Misophoniq

    Google “Salami Pizza” and you’ll get a lot of picture that looks stinkingly similar to the thumbnail of this video! :-P

  55. Jared Platt

    We used 1700s math to get to the moon

  56. 4 GIVE

    Did anyone measured the gravity in the red spot?

  57. Thomas Goodwin

    Or coming up with some crazy experiment that shows some phenomenon never before encountered.

  58. ekstrajohn

    Sounds a bit like curvefitting to me, but interesting work!

  59. PuanJablo

    1:20 that’s where baby pizzas come from

  60. Muhammed Fadera

    the unreasonable effectiveness of maths

  61. mari

    This is a really interesting and educative video. Thanks, SciShow, and Hank for the amazing delivery!

  62. New Message

    I had a ‘great red spot’ of my own in high school…

  63. TrollMonkey

    Wow, Reid sure grew his hair out and now he wears glasses! Jupiter has always been the best planet. Just ask Arthur C. Clark

  64. scrwbll19

    Fascinating. Given the results of the video, it would seem that one could treat each storm as a point charge within a field. If that is the case, it makes me wonder if one could apply particle physics or quantum physics to try to understand the interactions between the storms as a way to characterize their stability. For example, proton and electron decay typically take an extremely long time. I wonder if it is possible to view things from this kind of perspective to find any insight.

  65. TheLastCoolGuyOnEarth

    I thought the thumbnail was pizza when scrolling

  66. Anonymous bub

    When Hanks fit is piping off you know the video is gonna be good

  67. Matthew Minor

    This video explaining cyclones on Jupiter.
    me: wait, there’s a hexagonal cyclone on Saturn?!

  68. SAMURIADI

    another piece of the theory of everything falls into place
    this brings a smile to my face

  69. Jaime Suarez

    “We Used the Results from an Experiment from the 1800s…”

  70. Akun Saya

    3:35 It’s because Hexagon is Bestagon.

  71. Joanna Atkins

    Modern science really does stand on the shoulders of giants

  72. Very Sad

    when I was a kid I thought Jupiter was a person like a banker or lawyer
    And I thought Neptune was all water

  73. OMG Puppies

    There are also double cyclones at the poles of Venus.

  74. Joe S

    Finally it’s revealed: north poles are positive.

  75. Max Mayhem

    The arrangement of those 6 cyclones looks like a revolver barrel.

  76. kloassie

    Uhm – SciShow … _”We” solved Jupiter’s mysteries_ ??

  77. kermeeted

    well, i never actually understood the use of high standard maths unless you’re a scientist

  78. A Youtube Channel

    1:22 Kurama – The Nine Tailed Fox, is that you?

  79. l96ai

    Me: confused unga-bunga..

  80. Dynamic Elites

    I just like Hank’s voice when explaining stuffs. It’s so scientific.

  81. Carn Soaks

    “… in the history books”. Oh and computers.

  82. Jaizensama Sosek’e

    Lord Kelvin would be proud 🥲.

  83. insanewizard

    Saturn could of cooled where everything lost it’s equilibrium and merged, could be Jupiter is in the goldilocks zone for gas planets.

  84. Semaj_502

    This was so freaking interesting! Just goes to show the endless applications of math and science and how research in one field can lead to breakthroughs in others. Which, to be frank, is the best rebuttal to the argument against spending money on space exploration. Science begets science. And I love science!

  85. killi mimes

    It is rumoured that they did all of the math calculations in cursive!

  86. bruinflight

    One storm to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them!

  87. Glorywhole

    Good thing we didn’t use 2020 math to figure this one out. Seems like 2+2=19 this year.

  88. Alfred Sutton

    Math is forever. Math is the fundamental science. Vortices are still much under appreciated and not well understood. Keep bringing us the papers Hank.

  89. rgbii

    When I first glanced at the thumbnail, I got hungry for pepperoni & cheese pizza

  90. NeonsStyle

    …and we don’t know why the Great Red Spot storm doesn’t drift to a pole of Jupiter.

  91. Pamela Mays

    Jupiter Cyclones sounds like a very intense hard rock band!

  92. B1 Laxson

    Scishow: Way back in the 2010s
    Me: I feel so old

  93. Camila Stefanie

    From the comments, it seems once again that people really will get mad at anything, in this case, people applying old mathematical models to a seemingly unrelated question about cyclones in space

  94. Dave Toms

    _”HIS MATH WAS LEGIT”_
    ~ Hank Green, 2020

  95. Patrick McCurry

    Never forget the fundamentals.

  96. A.L Streams Channel

    Wow, those infrared pictures are cool. The storms place themselves of their own accord? This seems like it could a common occurance in the universe. Reminds me of the magnetism included in next-gen Tungsten microscopes.

  97. teemusid

    They called him “Lord Kelvin?”
    That’s cold.

  98. eliljeho

    Another reason why hexagons, are the bestagons.

  99. Willems Pierre

    Jupiter is absolutely gorgeous. Literally looks like a painting..

  100. Til

    Let’s take a moment to appreciate the fact that the satellite sent by NASA to “observe” Jupiter, is called Juno (his mythological jealous wife).

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