Rare Energy Detected From The Most Distant Galaxy Ever Was Not That At All


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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about last year’s detection of an unusual gamma ray burst from the most distance galaxy ever found – GN-z11

https://arxiv.org/abs/2101.12738
https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.13164
https://fezatr.com/eng/object/40386/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-021-01474-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GN-z11

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/GNz11-FarthestGalaxyObservedByTheHST-20160303.webm
NASA, ESA, P. Oesch and B. Robertson (University of California, Santa Cruz), and A. Feild (STScI) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GNz11-FarthestGalaxyObservedByTheHST-20160303.jpg
Pavel Kolotilov CC BY-SA 3.0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton-M#/media/File:Proton-M_ILS_fairings_ver_1.jpg
ScienceApologist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansion_of_the_universe#/media/File:Raisinbread.gif
NASA/WMAP Science Team – Original version: NASA; modified by Cherkash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansion_of_the_universe#/media/File:CMB_Timeline300_no_WMAP.jpg
Pablo Carlos Budassi CC BY-SA 4.0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GN-z11#/media/File:GN-z11.png
http://NASA/Swift/Mary Pat Hrybyk-Keith and John Jones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-ray_burst#/media/File:GRB080319B_illustration_NASA.jpg

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Comments:
  1. Goodtohave Inajam

    How can they possibly “see” anything, through all the orbiting crap? No wonder they need a Hubble.

  2. Caoimhin Tew

    It is astronomy and space science that keeps me up at night.

  3. Bubba the lone Potato

    What are the chances that: Space Junk has become a major problem for astronomers and needs to be cleaned up?
    We already know it is a danger for astronauts and the international space station.
    What will it take to start a “Clean Space” program?

  4. Dr Gamma D

    Regarding the apparent error about how far light has traveled, the answer is: it depends whether you use proper distance or comoving distance. With the latter, the traveled distance is boosted by expansion of space, so 39 Bly is OK. Proper distance is c*t, so not so much. Basically, it was closer than 13.4 Bly when it’s light today was emitted, that light traveled for 13.4 By, and the galaxy is now (using cosmological time, otherwise “now” doesn’t anything) 39 Bly away.

  5. Milan V

    Since the universe is always expanding, our galaxy spinning, earth spinning, so many variables. How do astrologists know a signal (which would have left the origin BILLIONS of years ago) left a certain galaxy?
    Wouldnt it be borderline impossible to back track the placement of said galaxy, given all the above variables?

  6. Gary Gardener

    In general we are just guessing with far things in space

  7. Dale DeLatte

    Isn’t it odd that more than 97% of observable stars we see are red shifted? This goes beyond a simple expanding universe as an explanation. If the universe is 13.4 billion years old and we still can’t pinpoint an expansion rate, or even determine if it’s uniform in all directions, how are we determining distances of these 30+ billion light year galaxies?

  8. Michael burns

    I like to see a cnc welder put in space so that they could build in space

  9. Linus

    Am I correct in saying the light didn’t travel 30 billion light years, it travelled 13 billion but the space it had travelled through already expanded behind it, increasing its distance from where it started without it actually travelling through such a large amount of space?

  10. Uros Rot

    Anton @1:56 did You say 32 million (at least sounded like that) or 32 billion light years.
    It’s easy understandable that distance is much larger due to expanding of space but the first value should definitely be a 1000 times bigger. Maybe you had something different in your mind at that moment and it was just a simple error due to a big amount of information You give to us everyday space nerds 😜🙄🙂

  11. Gsup7s

    1:50. How can the light from that Galaxy travel for 32 billion light years. That would mean it would have had to have been traveling for 32 billion years..

    And the universe has supposedly only existed for 13.7 billion. So how could it be traveling more than twice the time the universe has even existed.?

    So either that hypothesis is wrong.! Or the age of the universe is wrong.! Which one is it.?

    Now I’m sure you want to use the excuse that space is expanding. And this light was emitted from that Galaxy some hundreds of million years after its original formation. Which of course was billions of years ago. When the universe was much smaller. And everything was closer together. And it has taken more than 13 billion years just to get here. And due to the expansion of the universe. The light it emitted was also red shifted due to the expansion of the universe. And that we can use that redshift to calculate its current distance based off of what we believe is the current age of the universe.!

    But something you’re missing along with many others is that the expansion of the universe is expanding more than twice the speed of light. Relative to its position to us. So if this galaxy was on the other side of the universe. Due to the rate of expansion of the universe. It’s light would have never reached us. Ever. That light would essentially be running in place. In fact it would be losing ground. By ever how many times faster the expansion of space is than the speed of light.

    So the fact that we can see it at all means it was within our light horizon.

    Which means that the actual size of the universe is much larger. And therefore much much older.!

    Or that the calculation of space expansion due to redshift is wrong.!

    So again. Either that hypothesis is wrong.! Or the age of the universe is wrong.! Which one is it.?

  12. Kevin Haynes

    It’s somewhat ironic that the space industry is screwing up its own ability to study space…

  13. wohnai

    It was a smudge on the lens!

  14. just sayen

    Dang and I thought it was going to be proof that the Death Star does exists in a galaxy far far away..🪐

  15. Gregor Samsa

    1:45 No ! – No need to travel 32billion light years as the space was not there. Most of it, did not exist.

  16. SwiftyT

    I can’t wait for the James Webb to launch !

  17. Partially Engineered Huma

    Easy, BREEZY, beautiful debris cloud

  18. Mike Harrington

    It’s Grandpa Simpson sneaking out of his old folks home.

  19. Marys still learning

    Anton thank you. I get to feel a little bit smarter for a brief minute while listening to you.and completely off subject I have a question that not even google could answer. A black hole. If you could hold it up and look at the back of it what would it look like?. Does it have a” back”? Ive seen different models cone shape. Or just a ring ? If anyone knows an has time to answer. Much appreciated

  20. Kevin Green

    Our universe will be so much bigger when the JWST gets up there and our universe doubles in size that’s if light from further galaxies can reach it sounds odd saying that,, I can’t wait to see what’s out there ,, will we see the beginning of time

  21. Allan Menard

    So we either need to clean yet more of our junk, and/or we need to launch various astronomical probes further out beyond these disturbances.

  22. KoalaMeatPie

    So it was “just sunlight reflected off russian space dust” – Nice try M.i.B., niiiiiice trrrrryyy

  23. hubertheiser

    1:56: The light did travel 32 billion light years? That would have taken 32 billion years which is just impossible as the age of the universion is 13.4 billion years. So when the galaxy was observed at a point in space and time where the universe was .5 billion years old, the light travelled some 12.9 billion years.

    As space expanded since the light was emitted, today’s distance of the galaxy would be 32 billion years (estimated of course, we can’t measure it).

  24. Charlie Medina

    Hey Anton, so I’m thinking that our Universe is not only expanding to one direction which the common diagram is, after any big explosion or any big shock wave, not only is there a push but there is also a pull. At the Big Bang explosion, the explosion was so big that the Space was not really fully formed but it must have had a wall that its pushing and forming the Universe, but also that same wall the explosion was also bouncing back those waves and returning the explosion waves back to the Big Bang jn sense that it’s pushing the main begining source of the Big Bang back from its original spot when it exploded, in sense that it’s tricking us all the original spot when it all began.

  25. Charlie Duke

    Anton’s dedication is exceptional!!

  26. ABMNS PRODUCTION

    This is kinda concerning actually, it raises the question about how many observations performed in the past could have been flawed because of space debris?
    Maybe time to reconsider a way to clean all that orbital space junk…

  27. Peter Benton

    I found Anton’s channel months ago but after a few weeks I decided to Unsubscribe……I just Subscribed again because of this vid,good info Anton 👍

  28. yteicosf

    can’t wait for jwst to launch!!!!!!!!

  29. Anik Samiur Rahman

    So, after Starlink’s 10,000 satellite launch, our GRB count will rise 10,000 fold?

  30. Adam S

    This sounds to me like a typical case of Occam’s razor. According to the laws of probabilty, the most likely explanation is usually the correct explanation.

  31. Dean Tomlinson

    Anton’s a good communicator, very easy to listen to. I’ve been kept well informed over many space topics since I have discovered this guy a few months ago. Thanks for the education on my favourite subject. 🌌

  32. Paul Gradenwitz

    What is the chance that there was a gamma ray in the 5 hours they were looking to that galaxy. What was the chance that there was a piece of space junk correctly orientated to flash UV light. One gamma flash per day for the total sky compared to how many space junk flashes per da on the total sky?

  33. Thomas George Castleberry

    I hope someone wrote a paper about this. Buc Rogers never talked about this. My ex wife also use to have flashes, it was a good idea to avoid her at those times.

  34. A Million Orange Dolphins

    Wohooo, a gamma burst from the beginning of the universe! No wait … it was a bit of biubblegum foil in low orbit …

  35. R A

    What if our spacejunk becomes a black hole? Better start applying for spacegarbageman.

  36. ivanhoe escobar

    Can someone explain the expansion of space I can’t get my head around it?

  37. William Maddock

    Shifting from Ultraviolet to Gamma Rays would be a blue shift, not a red shift.

  38. will2see

    8:48 – Plese, Anton, just don’t mention the Occam’s razor, because you don’t decide what is they simplest explanation, ok? And don’t forget, the Occam’s razor says “usually” but not always. It is not a law! It is just an empiricaly statistical observation, not even a rule!

  39. RavingMuppet

    Mom I want a galaxy!
    Mom: We got a galaxy at home.

    The galaxy at home: 0:58

  40. Uncl Dolan

    Got a feeling the majority of discoveries and whatever else todays ‘researchers’ type into the computer simulation and gives a green light is not that at all and just mundane.

  41. will2see

    7:19 – “… and this explanation definitely makes a lot more sense than a gamma-ray burst, once again, because of the rarity.” 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️

  42. Louis Gaumond

    Salut Anton I’m from Quebec as well,,, Love your videos… I do however like to know if all Galaxies rotates the same way??? like the milky way is rotating clockwise is it not?

  43. will2see

    3:40 – “…if we are looking at the galaxy and if we measure its redshift, specifically the redshift coming from various reactions when stars are forming…” – WTF Anton?! SERIOUSLY?!

  44. Mattack 420

    Unfortunately ‘ space debris’ is going to be a constant answer for a lot of discoveries

  45. George M

    I’d like to second @Oshungurl and request an episode going through the main proposals to collect/eliminate/deal with space junk and avoid that worrying Kessler syndrome scenario. Thanks Anton for your efforts sifting the wheat from the chaff for our benefit… 🙏

  46. phil coombes

    Given the amount of junk up there, what are the chances of this having happened before, resulting in an “odd” GRB that might have this as its origin…? pinning one such of down to being produced in this way would strengthen the argument enormously…

    Was also wondering…I can see how the lack of a GRB spectral “yardstick” prevents any accurate measurement of a GRB’s redshift in very distant galaxies like this one, but are there not some a little closer to home, where the distance has been reasonably determined from optical/UV redshifts, that might at least allow upper & lower bounds to be estimated…?

  47. Graeme Brumfitt

    Aliens shot the space junk with a Gamma Ray gun to clear a path for their interstellar highway! TFS, GB :)

  48. Paul Stoleriu

    An actual translation of Occam’s Razor is “Plurality is not to be posited without necessity”. And it’s mostly misquoted as “the SIMPLEST explanation is usually the best one”, not the “easiest explanation”, the simplest one. Simple is not equivalent to easy, easy can be complex and simple can be hard. Occam’s razor does not apply here, since both papers offer simple (and singular) hyppotesis based on gathered data, they’re the same level of simplicity, just contradicting.
    If you must use a meme quote, I’d have gone for “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”. Or even “It’s NOT aliens!”.

  49. jayshook21

    How does the Great Attractor not contradict the expansion of the Universe?

  50. Noah Heninger

    Just checking to see if it was aliens. I’ll let myself out.

  51. Gav Asia Robinssson

    We need a moonbase on the other side of the moon for better observation. Moonbase alpha.

  52. Tribal 69

    Thank you Again Anton

  53. iLLeag7e

    Holy space shit Anton you’re almost at a million subs my friend! Frickin sweeeeet! grats in advance homie

  54. Jonathan Cox

    Love anton and becky learned so much about astronomy, astrophysics and the earth thank you so much

  55. Bryan de Paepe

    This is like the US Navy “UFO” infrared videos, a misinterpretation of the senor/instrument data by unknown factors.

  56. Gregory Krajeski

    Clarification to one point:

    The light has travelled about 13 billion light years since it was emitted.

    The 32 billion light year distance is not what the light travelled through. The larger figure is because the universe has been expanding so that after the light travels towards us through some distance of space, that distance behind it increases. Of course the distance between us and the light has been increasing since it was emitted too, meaning that the galaxy was closer than 13 billion light years when it was emitted.

    Pretty much by definition though the light itself has travelled through 13 billion light years of space.

  57. Matthew Brown

    Hey Anton
    Thank you so much for the great content. But here you did make a rare mistake (it’s impressive how few you do make given how much content you provided). Light has not travelled 32 billion light years to reach us from this galaxy. If the Galaxy is 13.4 GY old, that’s how many light years the light has travelled to reach us even though the Galaxy was much, much closer to us than 13.4 GLY when the light was emitted as that light has been travelling through expanding space (thus the red shift). The Galaxy is now far further from us (32GLY?) because as it’s light has been coming towards us the accelerating expansion of the universe has been moving the Galaxy away from us.

  58. Jimmy Cerra

    You were talking about Proton’s Breeze M and correctly showed it… but then you started showing SLS’s ICPS and Orion while continuing to talk about Breeze M. That was kinda misleading.

  59. Visual_Vexing

    Occam’s razor isn’t really about the simplest explanation, because different things are “simple” to different people. It’s actually about the explanation with the least assumptions or speculations. If an explanation implies some fact that hasn’t been observed yet, it will have lesser value than the explanation based on established facts.

  60. Cornbreadfed Kirkpatrick

    That far off, I mean we’ve only had like 60 plus years of space junk in this known galaxy but this is far away highly unlikely unless a super solar wind blew some way out during a huge storm but again I’m guessing like everyone else.

  61. Vernon Greer

    I’m no astronomer, but that sounds like horse hockey. Can’t wait till we see the same thing from other ancient galaxies like this one.

  62. Brian H

    That is impressive that to see something that far, and to see something coming out of it. Nice vid.

  63. Gregg Weber

    There’s a difference between Zero and almost Zero. “Mostly dead”?

  64. TheLazy0ne

    The Russians did it!… Again 😂

  65. GanzRAWR

    Anton I look forward to the day you get to 1 million subs! You’re really close. Keep up the great work!

  66. Mr. Battle

    I like to think that what we think are “energy bursts” from distant stars are really just aliens flashing Earth with laser pointers and laughing their heads off.

  67. Edward p

    I LOVE YOU ANTON!!!! hehe

  68. Edward p

    love is a strong word. i will not use that in reference to anton petrov. only because that word is too strong to describe how i want my feelings to be described. heart emoji

  69. Sonar Bangla

    If we get spectral analysis of such bursts, immediately it would give us valuable clues about early universe.

  70. DyingToLive

    Hey, love your videos and was wondering if you’re going to be doing a video on the Helical engine that the media’s been ranting about and it’s legitimacy.

  71. The Rogue Rockhound and P

    Colossal difference between a GRB and space debris…

  72. Dark Lotus

    If we saw the Hubble Ultrea Deep Feild image in normal color, would all the objects be red?

  73. Robert Tolbert

    Occam”s Razor say the simplest answer is the best not the easiest.

  74. Eastern Woods

    Galaxies should be closer together the farther back you look

  75. James Aron

    Wonderful space debris ultraviolet reflection misidentification for most distant galaxy gamma ray burst

  76. LaGuerre19

    Another downside of the Kessler Effect. Anton has vids on the Kessler Effect, too, you should check them out!

  77. Oshungurl

    I have a question….who’s going to clean up all that space debris? Is it not a potentially huge problem?

  78. John Smith

    Considering how much junk orbits our planet, we’re lucky we can see anything beyond a few light years. 🙄

  79. Vernon Vouga

    You would think with how much that costs, they would send the stages back on parachutes to be re used…

  80. Mary Ann Bittle

    Interesting interaction between the first paper’s writers and the second paper’s writers. Not often we get to watch the interplay between two different “factions” in a scientific community in such detail! Very cool!

  81. Calvin Grondahl

    Science teams, play by play action in their field… Anton in the booth keeping it honest and wonderful.

  82. Vladimir Olegovich

    It was ultraviolet flash light someone used in observatory – even better explanation that meet the Occam’s razor due to being simplest stupid.

  83. Brianne Nurse

    I really enjoy your videos! Thanks for bringing this knowledge to the public in such an accessible way.

  84. elleshar666

    One of these days you’ll open the show like “we just discovered (insert weird phenomena) and it’s aliens”

  85. seionne85

    Normally Anton releases content ahead of other channels, but for the first time EVER I just saw physics girl do a video on this a few hours earlier. Edit: actually hers was more focusing on the distance and age of the Galaxy in question

  86. Patchy

    The light didn’t travel 32 billion light years to reach us. That is the relative distance between us and the galaxy the light originated from, today. the light we are seeing today traveled 13.4 billion light years.

  87. MC's Creations

    Well… It can be rare, but shit do happens. So… Who the hell knows, maybe it was a coincidence.

  88. Sharon Simcic

    Thank you! Glad you’re back and hope your move went well.

  89. Talking Mudcrab

    I think that’s really interesting. More interesting than a GRB imo, but I’m not a professional scientist either 😅

  90. doresearchstopwhining

    Hey @Anton – You should do a video about a meteorite that landed in someone’s bed recently. Crazy stuff. I wanna know how that happened, the odds, the chemical make up of meteorite. You know, all the stuff you know about. Do it!

  91. Dave Jones

    One of these days, Occam, I shall turn that razor against thee!

  92. Docta Osiris

    Unlikely doesn’t mean impossible btw, just saying 🤷

  93. Torie Torreano

    Shedding light on light years of space history… Love you, Anton!

  94. Never Knows Best

    Occam’s razor is the answer that requires the least assumptions, not the easiest answer.

  95. adminscottj

    Lucky 76 :)

    Thanks Anton!

    -Average Joe

  96. joe ortiz

    Very interesting, enjoyed this lesson !thank you Anton!

  97. AL's Place

    Anton keeps me coming back to YouTube daily.

  98. Twardziel Kokos

    What a wonderful space debris

  99. Jim Curtis

    Wonderful as always anton 😁👍

  100. Humma Kavula

    Are we so quick to rule out muzzle flashes from intergalactic doomsday weapons?

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